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What Happens When We Die?
H-A through Tony Neate and David Furlong
H-A through Tony
When we are
ready to incarnate, our spirit sends out a certain harmonic, an energy,
and somewhere on your planet there will be two people coming together
who will reflect that energy. Remember, when you decide to reincarnate
you choose your parents, not for what they are but for the challenges
they are going to offer you; because at any one moment on your
evolutionary journey, you are what you are - the sum total of everything
that you have ever been, experienced, felt, touched and understood, in
all your previous existence. So you come into a body at the moment of
conception, the moment of fertilisation of the seed, with all that prior
experience and at that moment in your evolution.
Now on one
level, in the same way that your spirit has chosen to come into life, it
is also its choice as to when it leaves your body at death. But it is
not quite as simple as that because when you came into your physical
body you brought all your spiritual karma - everything that your spirit
had experienced in and out of incarnations and all pre-human existence.
But you also had to face and deal with the physical genetic inheritance
from your parents and their parents. In other words, you have to deal
with your ancestral inheritance on the physical side, as well as the
spiritual/karmic inheritance of your spirit.
Indeed,
one of the challenges of physical life is to integrate and maintain a
balance between the spirit and the physical body when you experience
emotional states, stuck states, fearful states. For there is a very
close relationship between the spirit, the soul, the mental body, the
emotions, and the physical body. For instance, when you become
diseased, this is something which has come right through from the
spirit; it may even go right back to past lives, it may go forward to
future lives. But whatever, it is part of you as you are.
When we
come to face our death, we need to make the choice of how we die and
move on. Death is as much a transformation as when we come into the
body at the moment of conception, it is a whole new experience; for it
is not the death of the spirit but, rather, the rebirth of the spirit
into new levels of being. As the physical body moves through life and
begins to age, certain factors come forward. When facing the challenges
in your life, have you really faced them or have you avoided
them? How do you feel about death? Let me share something with you.
If you are fearful of death you will create a great deal of negative
karma for yourself. And it can happen at the beginning of life, you
know – your spirit can be fearful of birth. That is why sometimes, when
a spirit comes into incarnation, it brings with it a whole lot of
negativity. It has come in with fear, rather than with joy.
Let
us for a moment consider what happens when a person is fearful of
death. They will want to continue in life on and on and on, because
they are frightened of letting go, frightened of what is going to happen
on the other side. If they have been part of a very strict religious
sect, they may be concerned that they are going to be punished in some
way for what they have done or failed to have done. That is always
very sad because, as you know, God is a God of unconditional love. God
on the highest level does not judge, does not punish. There is no
revenge or retribution, there is only unconditional love that pours
forth; and it is your choice as to whether you accept or reject it. But
although your spirit has 100% free will and choice, it is not always
easy for it to express it.
Sometimes
a spirit will choose to die early for a specific purpose, or to make a
sacrifice when it dies, so as to help humankind as a whole; because when
you come into life, you don’t come in as a single spirit, but as part of
a group. So there are groups of spirits coming in and out of
incarnation all the time and each spirit carries its group impulse.
Indeed, sometimes when you hear of an international tragedy, a group of
spirits has decided to choose a way of dying that they hope will awaken
the hearts and minds of those they leave behind, so as to bring about a
new, more open way of life and being.
Treat death
as a joy
My advice
to anybody who is wondering how to face death is to try and treat it as
a joy, as an opportunity, because it is an opportunity. When you
leave your physical body, you will no longer have to experience through
physical emotion; for that is part of the reason for experiencing in a
physical body. But in spirit there is not that physical experience.
You are suddenly projected into a new way of thinking and being and you
carry with you all the things that you have been. Are you part of a
religious or spiritual sect that says either that you will not
reincarnate or that places conditions on reincarnation? Yet you and I
know there are no conditions, there are only the conditions that you
place on it.
Try and
think to yourself: ‘When my physical body dies my spirit will move on
into a whole expanding level of consciousness. I will leave behind those
that I have loved and I will want them to know that I am happy and that
I am released and that I still love them. I would like to feel that
there is a sense of grieving and loss on both sides. But then I want
those that I leave behind to release me and allow me to move on. Because
whatever happens in my future evolution, I will always be part of the
group family that I experienced in this life or in any other one
lifetime.’
Death is a
transformation, it is a rebirth back into spirit, spirit existence, free
of physical encumbrances. Then your spirit will want to look back at
that life and say, “How did I do? How do I feel that I did? Did I
achieve what I set out to do? What part of it do I want to carry
forward? Do I want to reincarnate straight away? Do I want to
experience other realms of existence before returning? Maybe I have
reached that level of spiritual understanding where I no longer need to
return; but would like to be there as a form of guidance to help those
who have not yet reached this stage of being, thinking, experience.”
So you see
dear friends it is a vast subject, is it not? Because you are talking
about infinite possibilities; and the more open you can be about it, the
greater your experience and the greater the realisation, the excitement,
the exhilaration of suddenly becoming aware of whole new dimensions of
being, with all the different flavours acquired through different
lifetimes. You may have chosen an oriental form of evolution in one
life, a western form of evolution in another. And all these are somehow
brought together and blended together; because at the end of the day
they are all different ways of learning to express the same truth, an
open truth, a truth of unconditional love. . . . . . . I think at this
point I would like to say something through David, so I thank you for
listening to me through Tony and I shall transfer to David.
H-A
through David
One of the
dynamics that I can express perhaps a little more easily through David
is to help each of you go through a form of emotional experience, a form
of qualitative experience, which can help deepen what I can say through
Tony. So dear friends, what I would like us to do now is to go on a
little journey, a journey which can begin to help each of you to perhaps
connect a little more deeply into the amazing impulse that is part of
you – and I do not use that word lightly because you are all amazing
beings.
Meditation
Exercise
Just for a
moment make a connection to that inner divine spark part of who and what
you are. You might like to imagine this as a light within, a point of
consciousness within your being, a place of peace, of knowingness, of
wisdom. Really sense and allow yourself to connect into the God part
of who and what you are. . .
Let us
imagine now that you are travelling back in time to a point before you
first entered this present lifetime. . . What was your spirit
experiencing, feeling, being aware of when it chose to make this new
journey? Can you sense the incredible feeling of love, of support, of
encouragement that is around you when you are making these choices? The
feeling that you are not alone but that there will be others who will be
joining you, connecting to you and working with you. . . Allow yourself
to reach into your knowingness, your impulse that has brought you once
more onto this planet. What was it that you truly wished to achieve in
this present life? . . . It may be that you will just glimpse a
feeling; it may be that you will have a greater sense of clarity; but I
would like you all to have a really powerful sense of purpose, of
direction, and a really deep belief within you that you are and can
achieve all that you set out to achieve in this present
life. . .
And what
happens then, dear friends, when you start to merge with that tiny
foetus in your mother’s womb? Do you experience a sense of
apprehension, of wariness? Can you allow the feeling of love and
resolution to be so strong that it carries you forward uninhibited by
the constraints of the birthing process? Try to have the sense of that
inner knowingness being there and being part of the impulse that brings
you forth into this present life. . .
Now let us
run this tape forward into the ‘now’, the now moment, the moment when
you can be both in the now, yet connected, not only to all that you have
been but also to all that you will be. . . There is a thought for
you! Everything is held in this now moment. Try to sense the
incredible feeling of continuity, the incredible feeling of connection
to your spiritual Self, to your spiritual companions, to the Life Force
that has brought you into being; and do it with a sense of clarity and
purpose. Have a sense also of this energy reaching forth through the
whole of your physical life until that moment when you determine that it
is right and proper to make this transition back to the realms of
spiritual consciousness, knowing that you may not have completed every
single task, and yet you can still love and value and appreciate all the
amazingly rich experiences that you have undergone. . . Sense your
passing as a moment of joy, of upliftment, of wealth, as you reconnect
with those loved spirits that have been part of your evolutionary
journey. . . . .
Gently but
firmly return to your body in the now.
Your
experiences here in the physical can be heaven on Earth, it depends on
your perceptions. You are offered something amazing when you come into
a physical body, an ability to connect with life in a way that is
completely unique; and you need to sense this feeling of joy, of
exploration, of wonder - the energy of the child reaching out to explore
the magnificence of the life that is offered. Dear friends, you have
experienced that type of life and you can experience it again in this
life, fully and completely, if you allow yourself so to do. For God
limits no one. . .
And now I
wish to speak again through Tony.
H-A
through Tony
So, dear
friends, I want to remind you that when you shared that experience, you
were actually bringing together into one energy all of your lifetimes,
all of your experiences in and out of the body. The ancestral
experience is both the spirit and the physical coming together into one
experience.
Death is
like life, it is how you look at it, how you treat it, how you perceive
it. If you are frightened of life you may well be frightened of death.
If you are frightened of death you will certainly be frightened of what
may happen when you pass over. So look at those fears, don’t run away
from them because they represent that other side of you; and you have
heard me say many times, you cannot see the light without the shadow.
But you cannot experience the shadow without the light and it is about
finding that synchronicity when you bring them both together.
At this
moment I would like to open the evening for your questions, your
thoughts, whatever you want to say. And I know there are those of you
who feel very strongly about certain things in your life. I want to
say, it is not wrong to think strongly about certain things as long as
you can understand why you think so strongly. What is it coming
from in your past life or lives? There is only one state of perfection
and that is the Godhead itself.
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death
is like life, it is how you look at it, it is how you treat it,
how you perceive it. If you are
frightened of life you may well be frightened of death. If you are
frightened of death you will certainly be frightened of what
happens when you pass over. So look at those fears, don’t run away
from them because they represent that other side of you... |
What I am
hoping will come out of this evening is a freshness of thinking, a fresh
approach, so that you do not need to remonstrate with yourself,
criticise yourself, look down on yourself. For in my eyes you are all
beautiful people and there is a beautiful spirit within each one of you
trying to find its way forward. And you can help that journey by
having an open mind and being in touch with that inner part of your
being. So are there any questions? Are there any statements?
Q: I have a question H-A. You are talking very much about the bigger
picture, but what is the effect if a woman is pregnant and for whatever
reason decides to terminate the baby? Could you say something about
that please?
I
will speak through Tony first on this and then through David. In my
eyes, abortion is not a wrong thing. When a spirit comes into the body
it may experience all that it needs in that lifetime in a few seconds, a
few minutes, a few days, a few months. Another spirit may come into a
body and live for 150 years inside its physical shell and die in a
frustrated state, with the spirit reaching out and saying, what did I
come into this body for, I have not found/achieved what I wanted.
Now if a
spirit decides that it wants to leave the body early and it may make
that decision while it is still in the womb of the mother, it will
communicate that on some level through the mother. It may have chosen
that very short incarnation because it is aware of the circumstances of
the conception and how and why it came in. And the kind of experience
that the body offered was not what it was looking for and what it needed
to help it forward. So if there is a termination, the reason for it is
what is important; it may be an emotional or mental experience, which
the mother cannot carry. So on a deep level there is actually an
understanding between the two spirits.
One of the
difficulties you have in physical life is, because of the culture, the
tribal cultures that have existed on your planet, you are beset with the
concept of right and wrong. But on many levels there is no such thing
as right and wrong, there is only what is. And if someone on your
planet does something that you disapprove of – why have they done it?
It is about understanding, helping, being. So it is the reason for an
early termination that is all-important. I would like to add to that
through David.
H-A
through David
The
additional thought that I would bring to this is that in most cases the
spirit that is incarnating is aware of what it is incarnating into, the
conditions that it is incarnating into and the likely outcome of that
incarnation. There are times when a spirit just wishes to make an
energetic link to a mother, because of the spiritual dimension that
connects them. So in these cases, you can have spontaneous abortions
where the spirit withdraws and there is not ever any real problem. The
spirit knows what it is doing, it knows why it is making a connection
energetically for a brief period of time, perhaps a month or two, and
the link with the mother is established. That can actually help to
bring a new dimension into the mother’s experience, and for the people
surrounding her, as well as that which the spirit itself has come to
experience.
It is very
important that this is seen with as much tolerance, with as much love,
with as much compassion as possible because, at another level, there
will always be something of regret within a mother who terminates a life
in this way; and that also needs to be understood. But we are in a
period of transition on this planet at the present time in which being
fully conscious and aware of how these things can be handled in a more
natural way are not so present. Perhaps in a few lifetimes in the
future, spirits will make this connection in a way that will be a very
natural process.
One of the
things you need to appreciate of course is that, with the wonders of
modern science, sometimes these processes are interfered with. A soul
may decide it wishes to leave incarnation and then finds its desires
thwarted by the doctors and nurses rushing around with hi-tech equipment
to keep it back. And exactly the same process happens at the other end
because at times in the past it was easier for a soul who just wished to
make a very brief connection with the physical body, to do so. Science
and medicine have moved on and now a lot of intervention is brought to
bear to retain the foetus.
Sometimes a
way around this is for a contract between the incarnating spirit and the
mother that this is just going to be a brief experience. . . Is that
helpful? Is there anything you would like to add to this or to come
back on in relation to this?
Q: No,
I understand. But from the people I have spoken to there always seem to
be very practical reasons. Clearly the experience needs to be
understood on other levels.
It
does, yes. There are certainly times when a spirit will incarnate
wanting the mother to go through the experience of not terminating the
pregnancy, yet knowing that this might happen. Do you understand what I
am saying? All the time we need to see that these are varied
experiences of choice, and what you gain from the physical body is
experience. Spirits want and need to go through certain types of
experience. The experience of deciding what do I do? What would be the
experience if I decide to go one way as opposed to another way? These
choices are with you all the time; these choices shape the way in which
the pattern of your life goes forth. As I have said to you many times,
your lives are not predetermined, predestined. You have an impulse,
which brought you into a physical body to go down a certain route and in
that impulse is an enormous variant – some more restrictive than others;
but in each key moment in your life your soul or spirit could go one way
or the other.
All of this
needs to be understood in the ‘contract’ that is going on between the
incarnating spirit and the spirit within the mother. For at that
higher level of consciousness, the higher-self part of the mother and
the spirit of the unborn child are in communication, at least in the
majority of cases that is so. But as in all things, there are
exceptions.
Q: H-A, there is a friend of mine who was very much in love with the
father of the child she was going to have. She had an abortion,
although she didn’t want to do that at all. He didn’t insist upon it
himself but she did it, for whatever reason. This basically changed her
life because she felt she had had enough of the kind of sexual activity
she had been engaged in and felt she was paying a penalty for that.
From that point on she started to go on a very much more spiritual path
and a sexual denial path. I have wondered while you were talking if
this could have been an agreement between the spirit of the child coming
in and the spirit of the mother, so that she would actually make that
decision and make that change of direction; and the spirit of the
baby-to-be would have completed whatever for its own sake, and maybe a
contract it had with the mother. It’s a nice thought – well not a nice
thought, it was very painful, but certainly an interesting one.
From my perspective I would concur with what you are
saying. The only thought I would add is that the mother could be more
loving and tolerant towards herself.
Q:
Well, I am going to be carrying this message to her, but
I think it is still a hurt.
Indeed,
indeed. But it is better to embrace one’s hurts, love one’s hurts,
acknowledge that this is an aspect of being in a physical body and be
able to say, ‘I still need to be loving and gentle on myself. Why do I
need to punish myself? Can I not begin to accept that perhaps the
change was necessary? That this has helped me to wake up in some way;
and in waking up I can still be open and loving and compassionate to me
as an individual and acknowledge all the parts of who and what I am.’
Because the danger in this particular type of circumstance is that she
goes from one extreme to the other, and this is not an ideal state. The
ideal state is to find a balance, a loving centred balance, so that she
can step forth with joy, fulfilment, excitement, openness – all that
life has to bring. And a knowingness that there is always love,
support and help for you, whatever you are doing. God does not step
back and say, ‘I am abandoning you’; you do it yourself.
H-A
through Tony
I would like to add through this sensitive that, as I see
it, that particular experience was one of the major challenges that this
lady faced in this lifetime. And it is important for her to know that
the spirit that was in that body is OK, it is fine, but it is being held
back by her grief. It would like her to know that there is no
forgiveness necessary, it achieved what it needed to achieve in this
incarnation and it is really ready to move on. So it would like to
have a contract with her that she will allow that to happen; and that
they can both embrace on a spiritual level knowing that there is no
angst, nothing to forgive, nothing to be guilty about. It experienced
what it needed to experience and it is sending her a great deal of love
and compassion. It is wanting to say to her, ‘Please allow me to move
on, and thank you for allowing me to experience through you. Bless
you.’
Q:
Thank you H-A, I will pass this on.
Q: May I ask a question please? These days doctors and
scientists are cloning animals and no doubt science will one day clone a
human being. What happens to a spirit who is cloned?
There
are two ways of looking at this, if you were to clone a human being
genetically there would be a spirit that would come into it, otherwise
it would not live, it would not exist – you understand? But it would
be a spirit that had been drawn to it because it was something
unnatural, in other words the birth would come about unnaturally from a
spiritual/universal point of view. It would draw a spirit that was
looking for something unnatural, a spirit that would have, perhaps, a
lot of issues to deal with. So it would not be an easy experience and
life for the spirit or the physical body.
I would like to add and extend my answer, not only to
genetically modified human beings, but also to genetically modified
foods. When you start to create things from an unnatural source or
base, it will draw energy to it that wants to experience in an unnatural
way.
Already on your planet you have a great deal of
imbalance – this is why the planet has drawn energies like my own and
many others, who have come here to try to restore balance to your
planet. Everything is a polarity and if you start pushing these
polarities too far in too many directions, you are going to create more
anger, more revenge and more tragedy. Does that answer your question?
Q:
Yes, thank you H-A.
H-A
through
Tony
Are there any more questions? Then may I thank you
through this sensitive for allowing me to share with you. I give you
my love, I give you my blessings; I give you my encouragement and energy
to stimulate your energy to go forward in this lifetime into a
universe of new experience. So through this sensitive I say,
‘Goodnight.’
H-A
through David
And there is not much more I would like to add through
David, except for you to remember the divine place from which you all
come, that God impulse that lies within each of you, within
everything. Let us connect with it, feel it, experience it, allow it
to be as a flame of energy, of direction, of love, of compassion and
openness, to take you through this life and all your experiences in
other dimensions that lie within this universe. Goodnight my friends.
Thank you.
Goodnight,
H-A.
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